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process, nor the u.s. law against killing americans abroad, nor the u.s. law banning assassinations, nor just the law against murder, nor the laws of war broadly legally constrain the president from ordering the type of assault that killed american citizen and prominent al qaeda figure on war al awlaki in yemen in 2011. al awlaki's son was also killed a couple of weeks after his father was killed. between those two killing, charlie savage at "the new york times" reported on the existence of a legal memo that the government was relying on to claim that the attack was legal. that memo is what is being disclosed to select members of congress tonight. it follows by two days the scoop by nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff, who this week on this show disclosed a white paper that was based on the reasoning of that secret memo. tonight's disclosure follows increasingly intense questioning of the administration on this matter by senate democrats, particularly by senator ron wyden of oregon, who today told reporters that while he understood that operations needed to be confidenti
about drones is not that u.s. forces can kill people from the air using targeted so-called precision-guided missiles. u.s. forces have been killing people from the air for as long as we have had the capacity to put armed things in the air. what is novel about what our government is doing now in our day is not necessarily the technology. yes, we are using remote piloted aircraft versus traditionally piloted aircraft to launch these same missiles. but the type of aircraft, that is, the delivery system for the hellfire missile is not the new moral strategic legal thing that we are finding ourselves newly responsible for grappling with as citizens. it is not the technology by which u.s. forces are killing people which is knew in an important way. it's not the technology that's new. it is the circumstances. it is the circumstances of killing people away from where a war is being fought. if the u.s. was using a mix of helicopters and drones to fire hellfire missiles at insurgents who were fighting with u.s. troops in afghanistan right now, nobody would have a different ethical concern or a
now open u.s. senate seat. also today, the president gives a barn burner in minnesota. he says on the political issue where we are supposedly so politically divided that we can never make progress of any kind, he says on that issue specifically, actually, right now we have a national consensus that we can move on. that's all ahead. >>> plus, the political right all at once, all in unison gets very vocally angry with karl rove. poor karl. frank rich from "new york" magazine is here on the show tonight. we've also got the latest conspiracy theory about the terrifying photo shopped secrets of president barack hussein obama. did you know his emotional name is hussein? the conspiracies about the president get even more conspiratorial than they have in years past. >>> we're beginning with a big deal, a story you will not see anywhere else, because it is an nbc news exclusive. nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff has uncovered something that is not classified, but treated as one of the biggest secrets of this administration. it's something the administration has
a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president obama called wyden specifically last night. >> clearly, the president's call to senator wyden so unusual and trying to ward off what could be a calamitous hearing today. >> what standard will barack obama be held to after the pictures of the little children who were killed by his cone drone attacks are placed before the jury in the hague? >> i was encouraged last night when the president called and he said as part of this effort, he is going to try to drive a more extensive discussion about these issues. every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i don't think that, as one person said, that is too much to ask. >> so right no
his other uncle jim buckley, a former u.s. senator or brent's mother, patricia buckley bozell of the both important writers in our conservative movement. let it start here. the president of rove's new super pac told "the new york times" this week that they are particularly concerned about the senate race in iowa because this guy might get the republican nomination. >> if there is a sexual predator out there who has impregnated a young girl, that sexual predator could pick that girl up off the playground at the middle school and haul her across the state line and force her to get an abortion to eradicate evidence of the crime and drop her off at the swing set and that's not again the law in the united states of america. >> that's the dangerously, of course, iowa conservative steve king. according to a new poll, steve king has a big lead for the republican nomination among republican primary voters who obviously have no problem with crazy but as -- and this is exactly what karl rove fears. that same steve king in that same poll is running 11 points behind the leading democratic
't want his u.s. citizenship anymore, he had officially joined al qaeda. al qaeda had declared war on the united states. so when people say there's a list of americans, not really. this a time honored tradition. the legal basis goes back many years when u.s. citizens would go on flight for foreign nations that were engaging in combat with the united states. so what they were saying is once you've made that choice, you no loca longer get the protections that you would. if you join the enemies oversea, you joan the enein the enemies . we do have oversight. i knew about the operations leading up to it and i review all of the air strikes that we use under this title of the law. >> well, you review the air strikes after the fact, correct? >> in this particular case, we knew -- well, remember, the air strike itself is just a tool at the end of the day. the policy, research, intelligence packages is what leads up to it. this is just, to be very blunt about it, pulling the trig ger t the end of the day. so all the stuff that comes up before that is in the purview. some of it is isolated to
to the deadly raid on the u.s. consulate. >> for you to testify that our posture would not allow a rapid response, our posture was not there because we didn't take into account the threats to that consulate. and that's why four americans died. >> we never received a request for support from the state department. which would have allowed us to put forces -- >> so it's the state department's fault? >> i'm not blaming the state department, i'm sure they had their own -- >> who would you blame? >> i stand by the report of the accountability review board. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you, secretary panetta, and say, how's it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces, he knew we were deploying the forces, he was being kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> no, but the -- >> wait a minute. >> it was over. the event was over before we could move any -- >> it lasted almost eight hours and my questio
those strategic surprises, and to be the best analytic component within the u.s. government to do the analysis the cia has done so well for many, many years. at times the president asked and directs the cia to do covert action. that can take any number of forms to include paramilitary. as we have discussed here today on the counterterrorism front, there are things that the agency has been involved in since 9/11 that, in fact, have been a bit of an aberration from its traditional roam. one of the things i would do if i would go back to the agency is take a look at the allocation of mission within cia. the resources dedicated to this. and as we had the discussion when i paid my courtesy call, i am concerned that looking at the world, which is a very big place, we need to make sure we have the best intelligence collection capabilities possible and the best analytic capabilities possible and the cia shuz not be doing traditional military activities and operations. >> i appreciate that and look forward to working with you on this to really identify which is appropriately cia and dod. w
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. >> a u.s. drone strike killed eight germans in pakistan today. do you have any information about that? >> i don't. and if i did, if i did, i wouldn't get into it. no. no. >> and other u.s. officials have confirmed these predator drone air strikes in pakistan. what is it about not confirming whether the president was consulted -- >> i'm not going to get into these matters. >> compromise organizational -- >> i'm not going to get into these matters. >> don't you think there is justifiable curiosity -- >> i think there are many things you should be justifiably curious about, but i'm not not going to get into talking about it. >> if other members of the government are confirming this, why are you not -- >> i'm not going to get into these matters. >> keep asking. there will be no answers. it was not just robert gibbs' problem. it turns out it is a problem of that job, no matter who has the job. >> reported a drone strike today along the border region. as you know, afghan and pakistani officials have been vocal about their concerns about them possibly killing civilians as opposed to terroris
from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, february 5th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first reads. president obama's state of the union address is just a week from today and the president is flooding the zone. worried the federal budget could dominate and limit his agenda this year. he's pushing other issues. he's talking guns one day, immigration the next. making sure he's not drawn into a standoff with republicans over the economy which would quickly come to define his second term. today, he makes the case on immigration to business leaders, including ceos like steve case and monica lozano from his now disbanded jobs council and chief executives of coca-cola and yahoo!. he also meets with labor and progressive leaders. the meetings will focus on how immigration reform fits into his broader economic agenda. >>> homeland security secretary janet napolitano on monday brought that message to border security operations near san diego. >> our immigration system has been broken for f
to send u.s. troops and john brennan was an architect of that strategy. of course, controversial because there are innocent civilians who can get caught up in that as "the new york times" written about earlier this week, as well. that's obviously where some of this is coming from but the question americans face is would you rather have american troops and boots on the ground in yemen and pakistan or the unmanned drones taking on this responsibility? >> thank you very much. i appreciate you changing conversations in the middle of everything. we'll have plenty of time i'm sure to talk about chuck hagel. meantime, let's take the audience to the senate hearing and senator dianne feinstein. >> because of the added importance of having steady leadership at an organization that conducts most of its business outside of the public arena. intelligence is critical to the successful draw down in afghanistan, to the brutal war going on within's syria's borders, across north africa where the attacks of benghazi and hostage situation in algeria threaten to spread in to the next front of al qaeda and it
despite the substantial progress made against them still seek to carry out deadly strikes strikes. u.s. computer networks are under daily attack by nation states. international criminal organizations, sub national groups and individual hackers. and regimes in teheran and po pyongyang remain bent on delivery systems rather than fulfilling international obligations or even meeting the basic needs of their people. yes, the cia's mission as important to our nation's security today as any time in our nation's history. in carrying out the mission, the men and women of the cia frequently asked to undertake challenging, perilous and, yes, controversial actions on behalf of the american people. the cia is not immune from the scrutiny of the efforts and i welcome a discussion of cia's past and current activities. if i am confirmed one of the highest priorities would be the committ committee's lengthy report of interrogation with now banned interrogation techniques. i have read the findings and executive summary of the 6,000 page report which raises a number of very serious issues. given the grav
certainly head on the scandals that have besieged and enraged the catholic church in the u.s. and in ireland and other countries? tonight i will tell you what i think. i know who the front runner is right now and what we can expect of him. and let's face it, the election of a pope is a political as well as a spiritual undertaking. ambition and humility both play their roles. the stakes, who will lead the church for the years ahead, probably for our lifetimes. it's going to matter and not just to catholics. i'm joined by melinda henneberger and e.j. dionne. here is my pick, cardinal angelo scola, just barely young enough to make it. the biggest thing he has going in his favor, the pope wants him, and there are a lot of voting cardinals who owe the pope. a majority were picked by the fellow right there, his holiness. about 56%, close to the two-thirds needing to win. he's italian, that always helps. he's european. 62, a majority are from europe. you know how political i'm getting here? i'm just starting here, melinda. this is a political enterprise. it's a secular event, and it's an election,
africa. a lot of news this week. here is the a.p. headline. u.s. limited in fight against north african militants. the united states is struggling to confront an uptick in threats in the newest hot spot with limited intelligence and few partners to help as the obama administration weighs who you to keep islamic extremists from jeopardizing national security without launching war. we want to put up a map here. and explain to people where this is. egypt, libya, algeria, mali, niger. when i read about the idea that we don't have enough intelligence, we've known about al qaeda in north africa since before 9/11. this is the original safe haven of osama bin laden, was north africa. did we drop the ball? >> you know, when al qaeda attacked the united states on 9/11, and it became clear that we had to go to war on terrorism against al qaeda, we focused on al qaeda's core leadership and where they were at. and we've done that. we've gone after them in pakistan, afghanistan, and going after them in yemen, going after them in somalia. yes, they are out there. >> it's been out there a long time, ri
and center. waterboarding, however you define it, is no longer front and center because the u.s. has discontinued doing it. we talk about "zero dark thirty." >> 400 drone strikes. do we know, any idea, about civilian casualties within those? any concept? collateral damage? >> it wasn't the best part of mr. brennan's testimony yesterday, there has been significant collateral damage. the numbers are obviously -- whether it's hundreds or thousands -- the real question is, you've got to ask yourself on a cost benefit way, yes. at times innocents are going to be hurt. you've got to ask yourself don rumsfeld's questions. what you are accomplishing against terrorists, is that to some extent offset by the fact that you're alienating populations and governments with whom you have to work? that's the question we have to constantly ask ourselves, this cost benefits test. >> john, it's donny. if we got to the point and as i listen to mr. brennan, where we were going to do a drone strike against an american citizen, it would be the most desperate of times, and i don't want to have to go through a
in the 20th century, the u.s. was at war virtually every decade of the 20th century, so if we think of ourselves as peaceful country that does not engage in war, we need to rethink that. >> that is right. david, i want to ask this question, because where we were before and boots on the ground, the sense of the collective experience of war was quite different. we were looking at the numbers of military troops versus civilian americans not engaged and it is less than 1% of the u.s. population that is doing the fighting, and now with technology and drones, it, part of it why perpetual war seems possible because there is little cost to the vast majority of us. >> well, if we had a universal draft and in 1994 two-thirds of the class of princeton was drafted. that is a huge check on the politicians, and the policies that we are are following with drones are infuriating people because other people get killed and innocent people killed along the way, which raises in your question that you are raising future conflicts, and the anger that, imagine if somebody was using a drone here and killed
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with federal and international law. >> the u.s. government can order the killing of american citizens if they are believed to be "senior operational leaders of al qaeda" or its subsidiary groups. investigative correspondent michael isikopf joins us now. we are going to be back to this in a moment because the president has come into the briefing room. >> on our budget and on our deficit, and these are decision that is are l have real and lasting impacts on the strength and pace of our recovery. >> economist and business leaders have said our economy is poised for progress in 2013, and we've seen signs of this progress over the last several weeks. home prices continue to climb. car sales are at a five-year high. manufacturing has been strong and we have created more than six million jobs in the last 35 months. we've also seen the effects that our political dysfunction -- the drawn-out process for resolving the fiscal cliff. the threat of massive automatic cuts have already started to affect business decisions. we've been reminded while it's critical for us to cut wasteful spending, we c
qaeda, whether they be a u.s. citizen or non-u.s. citizen, needs to know that they have the ability to surrender anytime, anywhere throughout the world. >> the controversy is not going away. the boundaries of transparency are still undefined. get your cell phones out. we want to know what you think tonight. tonight's question, do you agree with the policy of targeted killing of american citizens? text a for yes. text b for no. to our new number. our text number now is 67622. you can always go to our blog and leave a comment at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. tonight, i am joined by nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isakoff who broke the news of the memo earlier this week. good to have you with us. thank you. >> good to be with you, ed. >> did john brennan say anything today in your professional opinion to shed light on the targeted killing program? >> not much. in fact, in some respects he said less than he's said before. i listened closely through the entire hearing, and brennan never once used the word "drones." he talked abou
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on a document released to a senate committee in june of last year that lays out u.s. policy on when drone attacks may be used against u.s. citizens abroad. specifically the white paper's focus is on who may be the focus of these attacks and at what point a threat is considered imminent. for more we bring in the man who broke this story, the great nbc's mike isikoff. mike, welcome. let's make it clear, if he can, from the beginning, whom does this memo encompass? for instance, would it include an al qaeda agent, say, living in europe, in germany, or in the united kingdom? >> most likely not. the memo lays out a three-part test for who can be targeted by a pilotless drone strike if there is a belief that the individual, the target, is an al qaeda operational leader. number one, there has to be what the memo describes as an imminent threat of a violent attack against the united states. number two, capture of that individual is not feasible. and number three, the operation has been under applicable law of war principles. if you go to the second part of that test, capture is unfeasible, it pro
a terrorist than to detain him. >> as president obama's choice to head the cia was grilled by congress, the u.s. military is rebooting its leadership of our lod longest war. today, general john allen, the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan passed the torch to general joseph dumbford. the change of command happens as many question how the united states conducts its national security policy. i want to bring in retired army general barry mccaffrey. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> we should note the general is also the former assistant to the chairman of the joint chiefs as well. for many, the public hearings raised the issue of targeted killings. what effect, if any, will all the talk and scrutiny have on u.s. policy on the ground? >> well, i think it's a legitimate and helpful debate. you do want oversight by congress, you do want there to be known rules. you want to take into account international laws of war. however, we've killed almost 3,000 extremists, terrorist threats to the american people with these drones. these are not law enforcement operations. they are military and c
a market cap of $10 billion. >>> "the new york times," the u.s. has tightened economic sanctions on iran to force the ayatollah's hand to halt its nuclear program. this morning iran's supreme leader rejected proposals for direct nuclear talks with the united states. there's a concern that the effects of tighter economic sanctions will not have the desired impact despite a drop in oil exports and currency value, "the times" reports say the restrictions already in place have done little to slow economic development in tehran. >>> "the washington post," u.s. senator bob menendez tried to intercede on two occasions for his friend, florida doctor salomon melgan whose offices were raided by the fbi. occasion officials found he overbilled medicare by almost $9 million and ordered him to repay. twice menendez contacted officials to say they were unfairly penalizing melgan who is a campaign donor. menendez has come under scrutiny. he later repaid $58,000 for trips. >>> "usa today," walt disney has cleared the way for george lucas to sell his $2 billion stake in the company. that would allow the l
was missing. there was a direct attack of some kind on a u.s. mission even though they didn't know all the details. so he was trying to press them and both panetta and dempsey said they department speak to the president or to hillary clinton personally. while there is a sort of apparatus in the white house to keep a president informed, they made it clear they weren't talking to anybody at the white house during the hours when this was just really on fire both figu figuratively and literally and graham was making the point no one knew how long the assault would last and so he was raising questions about why wasn't more military force and readiness available. there's a lot still not understood about benghazi and what happened and certainly people in both parties but we heard a lot from republicans who want to look even more closely even as panetta leaves this job. >> and we heard obviously something that has been a common republ republican refrain. you heard it during the questioning of hillary clinton over benghazi. kelly o'donnell, it's been busy on the hill. thanks for staying on top
for joining us. >>> next, the state of the u.s. economy and why some in washington just can't say yes to this particular president. stay with us. >> someone should give senator graham a snickers bar and tell him to go sit in the corner until he's happy about something. >> right. >> it's disturbing. >> i mean, unless he's got sugar problems and he's low, his sugar is low, i don't think a snickers bar is going to help him. ♪ oh, sugar, honey honey ♪ you are my candy girl to grow, we have to boost our social media visibility. more "likes." more tweets. so, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. any questions? since we make radiator valves wouldn't it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets? hmm gotta admit that's better than a few "likes." i don't have the door code. who's that? he won a contest online to be ceo for the day. how am i supposed to run a business here without an office?! [ male announcer ] fast, reliable deliveries worldwide. fedex. that paints landscapes and doberman pinschers, well he e
those words to you, did you say, holy smokes, listen to what this guy just told me, and he's in the u.s. senate? >> michael, i have heard a lot, been a negotiator, i have heard a lot. i try to put things in context, and i put that in context as well. this man is not an anti-semite, not an enemy of the state of israel. he believes in a special relationship with israel. he told me so. he just doesn't believe in an exclusive relationship. that is to say he's prepared to acknowledge that there are issues on which close allies, and we are very close to the israelis, may have disagreements and maybe even fundamental agreements. that, frankly, is common sense. >> the terms of this conversation are being set by a group of extremists in this country. aaron just called it the pro-israel lobby. i'm pro-israel, but i'm not in favor of the positions that these extreme supporters take. >> did lindsey graham make his point for him in the way he browbeat him? >> yes, of course he did. it, in fact, is among the stupid things that the israel lobby has wanted senators to do is to have these expressions of
% of income gains went to the top 1%. if you look at corporate profits, those have increased as u.s. wages have declined, so in terms of whether or not this is a good time to be having a conversation like this, it would seem to be just about time. do you agree, ezra? >> i think it's always a good time to be having a conversation about how we can better share prosperity. i think the economics of the minimum wage are really complicated. on the one hand you have a lot of studies looking at what happens to employment, and there are a bunch of studies that show there's no effect, and then there are a bunch of studies that find there's a very small negative effect. now you can sort of pick which ones you believe. i think both have good points behind them, but maybe the small negative effect is worth it at times. here's the best argument for the minimum wage. here's why you want to do something like this if indeed you do, which is that as you mentioned, corporate profits have gone way, way, way up, and the last 40, 50 years worker power as manifested in large part through labor unions and other m
. the reason you have a covert action take place is if it goes wrong, the u.s. can deny it taking place. from my perception, there's a different said of understandings. he was working on the high-valued targeting program and i talked to him about the kill of the boy. >> he's a 16-year-old boy, son of anwar ail awlaki. >> he said there's a reason i'm not doing this anymore. stanley mcchrystal who ran it and is often associated even though he's a social liberal, mcchrystal has come out and said this is a counterproductive policy because of the potential for blowback and the hatred that it inspires. you asked what sounds like a simple question but it has a complicated question. the story has broken out into the open and there's a discourse now that wasn't happening a week ago. >> i want to talk about how we should -- you know, that's internally how the law's understand and i think that the white house has been very clear about we're asserting this authority. we're signing off on this. the buck stops here. what body of law is obtained here? what is the check list, how many hurdle dwrous have to j
are enjoying a rare moment of harmony here in the u.s. >> 13-year-old lala has been waiting two years for this moment. ♪ the chance to perform on the world stage while breaking snoer taliban tab your. girls and boys playing music together. >> which do you like better? the drums or the trumphet? which is more fun? >> the drum. >> the drums? >> she's one of 48 young musicians who attend the only music school in afghanistan where music was strictly banned under taliban rule. many in the group are orphaned by war. some even lived on the streets. today they are nearly 7,000 miles from home, bringing traditional sounds from their homeland. thn the tambore mixed with the western harmonies they are also learning. ♪ organizers hope the young musicians can learn about america and america can learn about afghanistan. music is making a comeback. >> should the future afghanistan show an afghanistan where the children of the country are the future and the hope is not dead. >> how does it feel to be playing your music here in america? >> i feel very well. >> he excels on the rubab, an afghanista
. rubio demanding answers for why the u.s. was not able to interrogate a suspect in the benghazi attacks, and he was briefly held by tunisia. take a listen to this. >> tunisians did not have a basis in their law to hold him. >> so they released him. >> they did. >> where is he? we don't know. >> he's still in tunisia. >> that doesn't sound like a good system of working with our foreign partners. >> it shows the tunisians are working with their rule of law like we do. >> i know mr. rubio wants to sound ready for responsibility and if he's got some very strong testicles, but dismissing the rules and practices of a foreign nation, that's hardly the most mature way to approach international terrorism, is it? >> oh, martin, that's poppycock. come on. we should have been able to force the tunisian government to do exactly what we wanted them to do. >> we're not even in any kind of conflict with the tunisian -- >> i'm kidding, of course. while marco rubio was trying and similarly we saw this in the hearing with hillary clinton, he was trying very hard to show that he is in command of the facts
. they were all convicted in u.s. courts and are currently in prison at federal maximum security facilities across the country. we as a country have experience prosecuting, convicting, and housing for life very dangerous people, including international terrorism suspects. that's why thompson, illinois, had competition when they said they want these guys. that's why thompson, illinois, had to compete with places like hardin, montana, and standish, michigan when they decided to seek the relatively lucrative labor intensive business of locking these guys up in their maximum security prison. and that's why the city of new york initially greeted the news of khalid sheikh mohammed's forthcoming trial at the scene of his crime as not just justice, but poetic justice. and then we lost our nerve. what happened? the politics of the past administration or something decided to come back. new york officials who initially responded to the khalid sheikh mohammed announcement day saying yes, let's do it. it's fitting that he face trial here where he killed so many americans. we can handle it. we are not af
. question-and-answer session, and point six was allegedly senator hagel said the u.s. state department was an adjunct of the israeli foreign minister's office, which i think would be breathtaking if he said that. >> okay. so let's see if we're all on the same page here and have this correct. a right-wing website publishes a resumer from a blog based on something hagel may or may not have said in a speech over, count them, five years ago. and now sitting united states senators are demanding hagel explain himself. hagel provided ayotte and graham with a copy of the speech and notes he does not recall making any such statement. now, folks, this is a pattern for the new gop that maybe mr. viguerie is looking for. senator rand paul pushing a theory about moving guns from libya to syria. paul's theory can be traced back to glenn beck. michele bachmann accused hillary clinton's chief of staff of having ties to the muslim brotherhood. her source? an uncorroborated report from a right wing talker frank gaffney. congressman darrell issa got in the act. he orchestrated an entire circus over the f
skeptical of killings that target u.s. citizens. do you expect the use of drones to be perhaps scaled back if john brennan becomes director of the cia? >> i certainly don't think so, martin, because he's in many ways the architect of this program and has overseen the dramatic expansion -- >> so you don't think the more recent public scrutiny will actually affect the administration's use of drones? >> i don't think it will affect the use of drones. what needs to be done is they actually have to be procedures and policies in place so congress or the courts can oversee it. at some point it may not be john brennan and barack obama overseeing it program. it may be something like dick cheney and the nation needs to have some standards in place for when that occurs. >> lord forbid. dana milbank, thank you, sir. >>> coming up, marco rubio and rand paul both vote against the violence against women act. a great start to their rebuttals to the state of the union. don't you think? stay with us. [ male announcer ] here's a fun fact: this single scoop of gain gives more freshness than a whole box of thi
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